tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33970956.post2297605175120213410..comments2024-03-19T15:26:26.055+00:00Comments on auntie joanna writes: Highlights...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33970956.post-19346457371416859522013-09-19T23:26:32.655+01:002013-09-19T23:26:32.655+01:00It is a reasonable point that in many parts of the...It is a reasonable point that in many parts of the world the vernacular is contested. In most parts of England, no, the normal accepted language is English. But in Wales it's maybe not so easy. On the other hand, despite having school Latin, I can't follow a reading in Latin. As Woody Allen said, 90% of life is showing up, and you don;t have to understand to be at Mass, you just have to be present. But you've got to ask whether it's really a good thing that people don't become familiar with the gospels.<br />Pope Francis has said that you can't expect to restore the Church through purely disciplinary measures alone. I'm sure he's right about that.Malcolmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10311426607108404554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33970956.post-70141833722342367372013-09-18T18:15:09.578+01:002013-09-18T18:15:09.578+01:00Joanna,
What a wonderful experience you had in Pol...Joanna,<br />What a wonderful experience you had in Poland! I especially like how a negative (Communist Paradise Ghetto) has turned into a positive with people using that as an example of how Communism is an evil. The people of Poland are great examples to all of us in the Catholic Church.<br />Blessings,<br />Suzanne Olipane<br />Colorado Springs, COSuzanne Oliapnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33970956.post-69376494642167345892013-09-18T17:02:07.094+01:002013-09-18T17:02:07.094+01:00Which just goes to show how wrong it is to assume ...Which just goes to show how wrong it is to assume that your own view is the only correct one. Just because you believe that "only" - interesting choice of word - attending Mass in the Extraordinary form can make you feel at home, doesn't mean that you are right. Think again. "Umpteen different languages" in Lourdes can be part of what makes the pilgrimage there so memorable and glorious a part of the Church. <br /><br />The reason why some people worry about the Extraordinary Form is precisely because too many of its supporters seem to be keen, like you, to insist that it is the only acceptable form.<br /><br />It took several centuries of reflection and prayer and debate and thinking and pondering and argument before use of the vernacular in liturgy was accepted as possible. And the wider travel that has become part of the life of so many Catholics has shown that using different languages does not divide people: indeed rather the reverse seems to have happened. For centuries, Catholics in Europe fought wars with one another despite having a common liturgical language. Today, with all the ghastly things we face, we at least seem to be getting on with one another rather better in Europe. <br /><br />When you go to Poland, go to a Mass in Polish: you may like it.Joanna Boglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00657573606200891390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33970956.post-87272953457717952802013-09-18T16:39:48.785+01:002013-09-18T16:39:48.785+01:00It is good to hear of your highlights of your visi...It is good to hear of your highlights of your visit to Poland. However I am surprised that your hearing Mass in Polish 'made sense of the universality of the Church.' I would have thought that it is only when attending Mass in Latin that one can feel completely at home in a foreign country. <br /><br />I recently attended Mass in Lourdes in the Extraordinary Form several times with people of varying nationalities and we were all very much 'at home.' The Masses there celebrated in umpteen different languages including Serbo-Croat have divided up the pilgrims instead of uniting them IMHO.pelerinnoreply@blogger.com